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France's Muslim Demographic Future
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Michael Ejercito
2017-02-20 17:35:21 UTC
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France's Muslim Demographic Future
by Yves Mamou
February 20, 2017 at 5:00 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9964/france-muslim-future


France's Muslim population could quickly grow to close to 15-17 million, but
no one can know precisely unless the law prohibiting the official collection
of ethnic data is changed.

These figures do not take into consideration the Muslim population that
immigrated to France from North Africa in the 1960s and early 1970s. There
are a few million of them -- nobody knows how many exactly. For
demographers, their grandchildren and great-grandchildren are not regarded
as immigrants anymore. These Muslims are, rather, integrated into statistics
as French citizens born of French parents. They are Muslim, but under the
statistics radar.

From time to time, France's National Institute of Statistics and Economic
Studies (Insee) offers a glimpse of the ethnic composition of French
society. The study, "Being born in France to an immigrant parent" (Être né
en France d'un parent immigré), published in February 2017, is one of them.

Like few other glimpses, the Insee study offers a partial view of the ethnic
composition of the French population. A statistical breakdown -- with the
answer to the perennial question: how many Muslims in France? -- would be
perceived as discriminatory and outrageous. Given France's "integration
model," nobody should dare identify people by their origins, religion, color
of skin and so on. A Frenchman is a Frenchman, whatever the color of his
skin or his religion, and any measurement of the sub-Saharan population --
for example, their level of education, that of their children, the type of
jobs their parents are doing, how many times they go to mosque or if they
have spent time in prison -- is illegal, discriminatory and racist.
Sub-Saharan populations must disappear in aggregate data about French
people.

The study, however, provides some telling information. In 2015, 7.3 million
people born in France had at least one immigrant parent (11% of the
population). Of these 7.3 million people, 45% are of European origin, most
of whom are children of immigrants who arrived in France from Spain (8%) or
Italy (12%) as early as the 1930s, or from Portugal in the 1970s onwards.
One can assume, although it is not written in the study, that these people
are of Christian origin.

Another group is composed of Africans. 42% of the 7.3 million children born
in France to an immigrant parent are of African background, mainly North
Africa. They came from Algeria (15%), Morocco (11%), Tunisia (5%) and
sub-Saharan Africa (11%). Although it is also not specified in the study, it
would seem that the great majority are Muslim.

Another group, children from Turkish migrant families, represent 4% of the
7.3 million. These people are classified as Asian; they are not included in
the African and Muslim group. Most of these Turks are also presumably
Muslim.

A conclusion therefore would assume that 46% of the descendants of
immigrants are Muslim and 45% are Christian. The remaining 9% are from East
Asia or the Americas.


A new study from France's National Institute of Statistics and Economic
Studies, "Being born in France to an immigrant parent," provides some
telling information on the ethnic composition of French society.
Criticizing the limited data of this study, Michèle Tribalat, a French
demographer, published some personal conclusions in Atlántico, a news
website. First, Tribalat expressed her regrets "not to have the population
figures of persons of foreign origin for two generations". But, she said, it
is not so difficult to compile it one's self.

"If we add the two generations (immigrants and children of immigrants), this
gives a total of 13.5 million, or 20.4% of the population. Thus, we have
slightly more than one inhabitant out of five of foreign origin, across two
generations, in 2015".

Asked by Gatestone how she came to the 13.5 million figure, she replied:

"Very simple. I added the 2015 migrant population (6.2 million) to the
Insee's 7.3 million children of immigrants, and it came to 13.5 million."

In her Atlántico article, Tribalat maintains that more important than the
2015 data picture, is the growth-rate that led to the 2015 figure. Tribalat
calculated her own estimates of this growth, with starting points in the
years 1986, 1999 and 2011, coming up with figures of a stunningly fast
growth for the number of migrants over two generations: the 13.2 million
migrants of 2015 (20.5%; 300,000 that are "missing" are from French overseas
territories), were 12.1 million four years earlier and 9.8 million in 1999.
In other words, 19.2% in 2011 and 16.8% in 1999. The population of French
persons of foreign origin would therefore have increased, when looking at
two generations, by 9% between 2011 and 2015 alone.

For the same period, French children born in France to parents born in
France increased by only 2.6%, writes Tribalat.

Consequently, France's population is increasing significantly only because
of immigration. But which immigration? Christian or Muslim? Tribalat
continues:

"I showed that the annual average rate of increase of immigrants was almost
zero between 1975 and 1999. But it is not the same story from 1999-2015. ...
The population of sub-Saharan origin is the one that grows more quickly. In
four years (2011-2015), looking at two-generations (immigrants and children
of immigrants), the sub-Saharan population seems to have increased by 43%.
This population is extremely young. In 2015, 80% of the children of
sub-Saharan immigrants are under 25 years of age". (Author's emphasis)

These conclusions are confirmed by another Insee study, "Demography of the
descendants of immigrants" (Démographie des descendants d'immigrés),
published in 2014.

"The Turkish and sub-Saharan African population is growing at an extremely
rapid rate (which could lead to a doubling in less than 10 years if this
continues).... The total fertility rate of women born in Turkey is
approximately 3, as it is for women born in sub-Saharan Africa. It is closer
to 3.5 for women born in North Africa, while it is only 2 for women born in
Europe, especially in France."

In other words, if the Muslim population of France can be estimated at
around 6 million today, it could grow to 12 million by 2020-2025.

This figure does even not take into consideration the Muslim population that
immigrated to France from North Africa in the 1960s and early 1970s. There
are a few million of them -- nobody knows how many exactly. They became
French very early, and for demographers, their grandchildren and
great-grandchildren are not regarded as immigrants anymore. These Muslims
are, rather, integrated into statistics as French citizens born of French
parents. They are Muslim, but under the statistics radar.

France's Muslim population could quickly grow to close to 15-17 million, but
no one can know precisely unless the law prohibiting the official collection
of ethnic data is changed.

These questions are not spoken about openly in the fierce pre-election
presidential debate raging in France. The question is not politically
correct. But in these times of expanding Islamism, they weigh silently in
favor of Marine Le Pen.

Yves Mamou is a journalist and author based in France. He worked for two
decades for the daily, Le Monde, before his retirement.

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Michael Ejercito
2017-02-20 21:10:09 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 09:35:21 -0800, "NOT Michael Ejercito"
Post by Michael Ejercito
France's Muslim Demographic Future
by Yves Mamou
February 20, 2017 at 5:00 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9964/france-muslim-future
France's Muslim population could quickly grow to close to 15-17 million, but
no one can know precisely unless the law prohibiting the official collection
of ethnic data is changed.
You got, a fucking PROBLEM with that, you slant eyed Islamophobic
mongoloid asshole???


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The Peeler
2017-02-20 21:28:24 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 13:10:09 -0800, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
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Post by Michael Ejercito
Post by Michael Ejercito
France's Muslim Demographic Future
by Yves Mamou
February 20, 2017 at 5:00 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9964/france-muslim-future
France's Muslim population could quickly grow to close to 15-17 million, but
no one can know precisely unless the law prohibiting the official collection
of ethnic data is changed.
You got, a fucking PROBLEM with that, you slant eyed Islamophobic
mongoloid asshole???
You don't, you deviated psychotic shiteating serb peasant?
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NEMO
2017-02-20 21:30:14 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>,
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